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	<title>Comments on: The Progressive Left Redeems Itself In Homeschool Mom Eyes?</title>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/06/09/the-progressive-left-redeems-itself-in-homeschool-mom-eyes/#comment-7292</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So here is a worthy summer school theme for our own studies as Thinking Parents, how to protect homeschool family autonomy from regulations and restrictions justified by this blurring together of religious education and academic education, of authority powered by "god, government and guns":

&lt;blockquote&gt;Does &lt;a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/homeschool-prayer-to-guns-god-government-as-trinity/" rel="nofollow"&gt;mixing home education with military might&lt;/a&gt; — bringing the kiddos along to get their draft cards stamped, whoops I mean “prayer passports”, the better to learn how God wants them to govern Florida — just chill me to the bone? You betcha, particularly the same week as the much more directly child-protective lessons of National Spank Out Day! (which needs prayer and action too, but these folks had no Capitol rally for THAT, didn’t even acknowledge its existence. I doubt the Governor noticed either, or prayed for the kids against whom god is being invoked as commanding their punishment.)

Does this mean child beating has become both corporal and capital punishment?

. . .Is there really nothing wrong with this, not even a little off-sounding, to these conservative Christian homeschool parents? If it’s really a prayer day then it doesn’t belong in the middle of the secular government identified with legal “home education” and conversely if it’s a home education lobby, for the legislative presence and show of strength and solidarity, then it isn’t about prayer and religion; those are constitutionally separated for good reason.

All the other Christian kids are still in school this time of year, folks, so this rally will be rightly (pun intended) perceived as primarily homeschooling kids.

Wonder if “we” will be sponsoring a State Purity Ball to follow? The warfare weaponry will already be all polished up and onsite, kinda silly to waste it once we have the girls and dads all rounded up to put on a show and the lawmakers paying attention. . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So here is a worthy summer school theme for our own studies as Thinking Parents, how to protect homeschool family autonomy from regulations and restrictions justified by this blurring together of religious education and academic education, of authority powered by &#8220;god, government and guns&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Does <a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/homeschool-prayer-to-guns-god-government-as-trinity/" rel="nofollow">mixing home education with military might</a> — bringing the kiddos along to get their draft cards stamped, whoops I mean “prayer passports”, the better to learn how God wants them to govern Florida — just chill me to the bone? You betcha, particularly the same week as the much more directly child-protective lessons of National Spank Out Day! (which needs prayer and action too, but these folks had no Capitol rally for THAT, didn’t even acknowledge its existence. I doubt the Governor noticed either, or prayed for the kids against whom god is being invoked as commanding their punishment.)</p>
<p>Does this mean child beating has become both corporal and capital punishment?</p>
<p>. . .Is there really nothing wrong with this, not even a little off-sounding, to these conservative Christian homeschool parents? If it’s really a prayer day then it doesn’t belong in the middle of the secular government identified with legal “home education” and conversely if it’s a home education lobby, for the legislative presence and show of strength and solidarity, then it isn’t about prayer and religion; those are constitutionally separated for good reason.</p>
<p>All the other Christian kids are still in school this time of year, folks, so this rally will be rightly (pun intended) perceived as primarily homeschooling kids.</p>
<p>Wonder if “we” will be sponsoring a State Purity Ball to follow? The warfare weaponry will already be all polished up and onsite, kinda silly to waste it once we have the girls and dads all rounded up to put on a show and the lawmakers paying attention. . .</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/06/09/the-progressive-left-redeems-itself-in-homeschool-mom-eyes/#comment-7263</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:)
That's what I get for not reading the comments. Now I see you were onto him long before I was.  Good!</description>
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That&#8217;s what I get for not reading the comments. Now I see you were onto him long before I was.  Good!</p>
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		<title>By: NanceConfer</title>
		<link>http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/06/09/the-progressive-left-redeems-itself-in-homeschool-mom-eyes/#comment-7251</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, Shaw has had his head handed to him over this column. The hsers who posted, including yours truly :) , took no prisoners.

The problem is that Huffington Post IS liberal/progressive/whatever and this is the party line -- line 'em all up for standardized everything, for their own good and for the good of the country (or at least the party).

Few on the left outside the abortion argument seems to understand the word "choice." With some notable exceptions -- Liza, me, you, that nice history blogger, a few other thoughtful posters at Culture Kitchen. 

Who knows? If we keep insisting that choice does not end with our uteruses, maybe the message will get through. Even to those bound and determined to "help" us.

Nance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Shaw has had his head handed to him over this column. The hsers who posted, including yours truly <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , took no prisoners.</p>
<p>The problem is that Huffington Post IS liberal/progressive/whatever and this is the party line &#8212; line &#8216;em all up for standardized everything, for their own good and for the good of the country (or at least the party).</p>
<p>Few on the left outside the abortion argument seems to understand the word &#8220;choice.&#8221; With some notable exceptions &#8212; Liza, me, you, that nice history blogger, a few other thoughtful posters at Culture Kitchen. </p>
<p>Who knows? If we keep insisting that choice does not end with our uteruses, maybe the message will get through. Even to those bound and determined to &#8220;help&#8221; us.</p>
<p>Nance</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/06/09/the-progressive-left-redeems-itself-in-homeschool-mom-eyes/#comment-7236</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-shaw/lets-restrict-home-schoo_b_49013.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;You won't like this one so much&lt;/a&gt;, sorry Nance.  Is Huffington liberal and progressive?  Okay but but tell me who this sounds like -- the conservatives complaining about immigrants, or trying to control a woman's private reproductive rights, right?
This is just as repressive and reactionary, protectionist and offensive and wrong-headed imo. Just like &lt;a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/501/" rel="nofollow"&gt;what you wrote here&lt;/a&gt;, Nance, about law-and-rule literalist charter hysterics who claim they are offering us help and counseling so we can stay free!  (Even the word "hysterics" is anti-feminist and I hate it, but here I think it does fit women who aren't actually for empowering individual diverse women, just women or moms as some unilateral bloc for which they proclaim themselves the political Definers and Deciders.)
The worst face of any political movement is seen when it turns on its own, reducing real progress for the community to a pecking order fight for dominance over others. 

Call it liberal democracy in the name of personal freedom if you want. I won't.  And I'm getting awfully tired of standing up even for people whose exercise of freedom I abhor, so they can be free to come at mine.
ABout the only thing good to be said about this illiberal crap is that at least he's not a woman.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Listen, I am not advocating that home-schooling should be outlawed. Of course there should be exemptions- where the child is in physical danger in their public school, when the child is physically immobile, where the family lives in a remote geographical area. In these cases- and when a parent professionally trained as a qualified educator is available- sure, home schooling would be OK.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-shaw/lets-restrict-home-schoo_b_49013.html" rel="nofollow">You won&#8217;t like this one so much</a>, sorry Nance.  Is Huffington liberal and progressive?  Okay but but tell me who this sounds like &#8212; the conservatives complaining about immigrants, or trying to control a woman&#8217;s private reproductive rights, right?<br />
This is just as repressive and reactionary, protectionist and offensive and wrong-headed imo. Just like <a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/501/" rel="nofollow">what you wrote here</a>, Nance, about law-and-rule literalist charter hysterics who claim they are offering us help and counseling so we can stay free!  (Even the word &#8220;hysterics&#8221; is anti-feminist and I hate it, but here I think it does fit women who aren&#8217;t actually for empowering individual diverse women, just women or moms as some unilateral bloc for which they proclaim themselves the political Definers and Deciders.)<br />
The worst face of any political movement is seen when it turns on its own, reducing real progress for the community to a pecking order fight for dominance over others. </p>
<p>Call it liberal democracy in the name of personal freedom if you want. I won&#8217;t.  And I&#8217;m getting awfully tired of standing up even for people whose exercise of freedom I abhor, so they can be free to come at mine.<br />
ABout the only thing good to be said about this illiberal crap is that at least he&#8217;s not a woman.</p>
<blockquote><p>Listen, I am not advocating that home-schooling should be outlawed. Of course there should be exemptions- where the child is in physical danger in their public school, when the child is physically immobile, where the family lives in a remote geographical area. In these cases- and when a parent professionally trained as a qualified educator is available- sure, home schooling would be OK.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Nance Confer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a complaint!
You keep finding these excellent blogs for me to read. 
How am I supposed to have enough time to wait on my children hand and foot or beat my husband -- or was it the other way around?? -- if you keep this up? :)
Nance
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a complaint!<br />
You keep finding these excellent blogs for me to read.<br />
How am I supposed to have enough time to wait on my children hand and foot or beat my husband &#8212; or was it the other way around?? &#8212; if you keep this up? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Nance</p>
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