Can Thinking Parents Save Generation Joshua?

6 03 2007

 Without Church or School? FROM Church and School?

Read this first if you’re coming late to the conversation.

Continuing on:
I see that the Culture of Church and School work together to disempower and infantalize individuals, turn us into handy-dandy funding and/or voting blocs, mere materials for their designated quilt designers and tapestry weavers to fashion into their so arrogantly marketed competitive products. The sacred texts of Church and School are different in modern translation (which is why they fight to be free of each other and why our Constitution wisely separates them) but it’s the SAME culture (which is why sovereign individuals might fight hard to remain free of both, and such controlling cultural models arise in response.)

Call it school socialization or church indoctrination, doesn’t matter — same authoritarian pressures to conform and obey, for the good of society of course.

Both are about force, THE Force if you prefer. Barack Obama was such a born student of it that we’re not unreasonable to ask how as a candidate he is using, and/or being used by, the tightly woven, competition-obsessed forces of conservative church and conservative school.

Sir Alec Guiness in the first Star Wars movie: “(The) Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.” How cynical to call influencing the weak-minded “education” much less personal salvation, or respect, tolerance and peace. It is quite right to say I have no respect for using (the) Force to mislead, manipulate or enslave; indeed I do fear that and oppose it any way I can.

I believe what Spencer Tracy tells the jury in Inherit the Wind (great play too, not just a classic movie): I respect and revere the power of the individual human mind to THINK.

Inherit the Wind as classic play and movie is so educational that:

“I propose evaluating a young person’s reaction to Inherit the Wind as a single test of whether or not that student is intellectually curious and adequately educated. A thoughtful, complex response to it should substitute automatically for all other “measures” of education!Which means my 11-year-old already would be deemed adequately literate, thoughtful and accomplished for general public citizen purposes . . .and my almost 17-year-old could be President! 🙂 “

Beyond school and church, beyond the courts and elected functionaries at every level of every social endeavor — what progress have we made since the 1925 Scopes trial if we see that less clearly now, than before we were so thoroughly schooled and churched?

. . .If you can do one, you can do the other. Because fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy, and needs feeding. And soon, your Honor, with banners flying and with drums beating we’ll be marching backward, BACKWARD, through the glorious ages of that Sixteenth Century when bigots burned the man who dared bring enlightenment and intelligence to the human mind!
Judge: I hope counsel does not mean to imply that this court is bigoted.
Henry Drummond: Well, your honor has the right to hope.
Judge: I have the right to do more than that.
Henry Drummond: You have the POWER to do more than that.
[the Judge holds Drummond in contempt of court]

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6 03 2007
Steve

“I see that the Culture of Church and School work together to disempower and infantalize individuals, turn us into handy-dandy funding and/or voting blocs, mere materials for their designated quilt designers and tapestry weavers to fashion into their so arrogantly marketed competitive products.”

Did you ever hear the phrase that when you point a finger at someone else, there’s three pointing back at you? For decades the left has been molding this logical fallacy that faith (or better, believing in absolute truth) equals irrationality. It is shaped by a premise that is neither challenged nor proved, that there is no absolute truth.

On the contary, the “Culture of Church and School” is one of the only institutions remaining that is both empowering the individual and perserving liberty. Today’s secular institutions seek to empower the individual by encouraging him to conform to whatever the current progressive trend of the day is. The individual that is grounded in absolutes and the general principles of liberty is far more able to resist tyranny than an individual that has no such foundation and believes any person or movement seeking to define it for him.

Compare the American revolution with the “enlightened” French revolution. Compare the Declaration of Independence to the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen. Now compare the outcomes. Freedom without absolutes is no freedom at all.

6 03 2007
misedjj

Gee, tell me how you really feel! 🙂

Seriously, do you mean when you read what I’ve written, that’s how you interpret it? That faith “equals” irrationality? Not at all. I don’t believe I even mentioned faith or true spirituality and I don’t derogate it any more than I am suspicious of true education. It is the organized and corrupted forms of spirituality and learning — religion and school — as crowd control and exploitation of human virtue for cynical partisan gain that I despise.

Florida’s new (Republican) governor just gave his first State of the State speech today — I should blog that when I get time, it relates, as I will try to explain. But for now, thanks for the comment and I’d really be interested in whether you can see the difference I am drawing between faith and organized church as a politically compromised tool of partisans?

6 03 2007
misedjj

Off to fix dinner, but as I go taking the time to add something Steve and others might enjoy or at least get a good, heart-pumping rile from (since I am linking Favorite Daughter a lot this week!)
“Why I Am A Good Person”

7 03 2007
NanceConfer

Unlike FD, I do not think I am a princess of any kind. 🙂 She’s still young and gorgeous. (Gee, that’s at least the second time I’ve thought about being old this morning — maybe I didn’t get a good night’s sleep!)

But once you get to a certain point in life, if you ever thought there was an ounce of truth to the “keep your fingers crossed and be nice and the world will be kind to you” idea, you get it trounced out of you.

Not that my life has been difficult. It’s just a regular life. No big dramas, really. But no magical fairy-tale endings, either.

So, Steve, which “absolutes” am I supposed to be grounded in? What do you mean by “the general principles of liberty?” Maybe I’ll agree with you, maybe I won’t. But I’ll give you a heads up right now — if the “absolutes” involve this being a “Christian nation” I won’t be impressed.

JJ’s the nice one here. I’m the one who thinks faith is irrationality. That’s part of the definition of faith, after all. That it is not required to be fact-based or rational.

And which “progressive trends” do you find so objectionable? I’ll check back later. I have to go follow up on my plans to volunteer at the local Planned Parenthood. . .

Nance

7 03 2007
misedjj

Oh Nance, that reminds me. You’ll get a kick out this.
We heard Sean Hannity on the car radio last week, ranting about Louis Farrakkan. He was mocking the man for his obviously ABSURD belief that we were created by some beings who arrived in a spaceship, or something like that — I have no idea what Farrakkan’s beliefs actually are — and rhetorically asking his audience how anyone could credit such a loon who would swallow such irrationality. . .

7 03 2007
NanceConfer

Yep, as you’ve pointed to Dawkins saying, we’re all atheists about the other guys ridiculous religion. 🙂

Nance

9 03 2007
misedjj

Whee, now I can connect both points: 1) being nice and polite, along with 2) ridiculing (fearing?) each other’s religion, itself creating irrationality — FavD is at it again (makes a mom so proud!)

Obama, Superman, the F-Words and Bigotry”
. . .The point is that your mother was right: you shouldn’t discuss politics at dinner.

9 03 2007
misedjj

Guess Steve didn’t stick around, was it something you said? 🙂

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