More Crazy Talk in the Public Square

10 08 2009

Palin runs hot and cold on civility:

After making an extraordinary, unsupported and incendiary claim that President Obama’s health care plan will result in a “death panel” that is fundamentally “evil,” Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin is now calling for civility in the debate on health care reform. . .
“. . .we must stick to a discussion of the issues and not get sidetracked by tactics that can be accused of leading to intimidation or harassment. Such tactics diminish our nation’s civil discourse. . .”

No word yet on whether Rush Limbaugh has had a change of heart about his Nazi talk.

See also Palin-esque Obama Hate, Why Tea Party Tactics Aren’t Healthy for Health Reform and How Language Tricks Our Thoughts, Shrouds Our Feelings:

If you are around people who constantly talk as if something is wrong or is right, you will probably come to think both that values are objective and that the specific value judgments of that group are accurate, whatever they happen to be. . .

Language allows for these sorts of magic tricks, cognitive illusions, to be performed on you. From different perspectives, different things will “feel” true . . . This is especially useful when listening to politicians. Those that seek to manipulate you are able to do so in large part because of language. . .
Become you own magician, and show others how these tricks are performed.

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14 responses

10 08 2009
Kurt

Of course. This is typical Palin. Throw the first punch, then stand back and let the other guy take the heat.

10 08 2009
JJ

Yep. Out of the line of fire, behind her special needs baby and other children. And you’ve set me looking for a suitable pun about “packing heat”. . .

See What’s Up with Fightin’ Mad White Women? too. Sarah Palin may have quit as Governor but she’s still their Queen.

10 08 2009
NanceConfer

Sounds right in line with her “thinking.” She got her say, she got hers, and now everybody else should shut up and make do.

Nance

10 08 2009
JJ

And what about her own “actual responsibilities” for the “actual” death of people she was elected to serve and protect with her public powers? Looks like more backward-talk from Palin, says Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore:

DEATH PANELS FOR DUMMIES:

. . .While under contract to govern the state of Alaska, Palin’s administration failed to keep up on the state’s Medicaid obligations and was ordered to cease signing up new patients. No other state in the country had been put under such a moratorium, according to the federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.

July 14, 2009 ADN:

A particularly alarming finding concerns deaths of adults in the programs. In one 2 1/2 year stretch, 227 adults already getting services died while waiting for a nurse to reassess their needs. Another 27 died waiting for their initial assessment, to see if they qualified for help.

Doctors and other health care providers wrote to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid with concerns that the state wasn’t responsive. Some alleged that the lack of state controls “has resulted in the death(s) of the active clients,” the federal review said.

While the people served are frail and suffer from chronic health issues, the state never investigated to determine if any failure in service contributed to the deaths, the federal review found.

. . . Alaskans have died due to a lack of health care.

The point of this post is not to point out the never ending hypocrisy of Sarah Palin. Nor is it to point out the blatant lies of one person — but how the intention, manipulation and lies of one person can affect the lives [of] ordinary people.

10 08 2009
Nance Confer

Well, at least these old people didn’t have some guvment official trying to kill them. They were just ignored to death.

Nance

10 08 2009
JJ

A comfort no doubt. . .

10 08 2009
boremetotears

Have you heard the breaking news? All of these problems have been negotiated away! Bipartisanship works! 😀

10 08 2009
JJ

Whew! Glad that’s settled, thanks for bringing us the news, Lynn. 😉

11 08 2009
Nance Confer

That IS a relief! 🙂

Nance

13 08 2009
JJ

Lynn, do you want to take that back now that the Crazy Talkers themselves are going after the next generation of American children we’re all supposed to be protecting with our policy and politics? And I don’t mean a late-night joke catching a politician’s child in the snark, this is dead-serious politics and private-citizen-family kids.

Put another way: they have identified an 11-year-old girl as a co-conspirator in this horribly misperceived socialist-fascist-Nazi-Marxist-communist-leftist-rightist-and-brown “insurgency.” They have broadcast her name and her home town to every hairless wingnut freakdog who’s holed up in his bunker with Glenn Beck on TV, Alex Jones on the radio and The Gimp locked inside a steamer trunk.

They have defined this child as another enemy standing in the way of getting “their country back.”

But there was this too, which you’d THINK Palin at least would decry on behalf of her own five if not her family values:

The Secret Service is investigating a man who authorities said held a sign reading “Death to Obama” outside a town hall meeting held by Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) in western Maryland. The sign also read, “Death to Michelle and her two stupid kids.”

On Wednesday night, Rachel Maddow tracked the disturbing death threats emanating from these events. . .[video here]

13 08 2009
boremetotears

Ooops. I guess we’ll need to add another concession: “We promise to stop using our children as shills to make you look bad.”

13 08 2009
JJ

Probably that was offered today and we just haven’t heard about it yet, so all is well?

13 08 2009
boremetotears

yes, all is well 🙂

14 08 2009
Nance Confer

And that black woman who was shown — over and over again — being dragged out of the town hall for having been attacked?

Yes, there was one day of coverage of the truth behind what happened — a white man was at fault — shocking! — so that’s all well and good too.

Right?

Yep. That’s how we do it. Cover the wrong information to death then issue a small correction and move on.

No wonder Americans don’t know what or how to think about health care or any other complicated issue.

Nance

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