Stop Every Kid-Hitter You Can: Teach ‘Em a Lesson!

29 04 2007

. . .and a good place to start might be to stop calling kid-hitting any kind of love or learning, and to object when others do.

Tomorrow–Monday April 30–is SpankOut 2007 and for once, this is a Snook post that Thinking Parents needn’t give much thought. It’s the Unthinking Parents, those too deeply in thrall with traditional church and school teachings, who need to start thinking. What they need to think about is how they teach all the wrong lessons by hitting — even in the exalted name of education or eternal life, much less from simple ignorance, habit or lack of a better idea.If you know any such folks, please apply any or all of these implements where they can do the most good (and don’t let up until they learn a good lesson!)

Discipline at School: National Coalition to Abolish Corporal Punishment in Schools

Religion and Discipline: Spare the Rod…Spoil the Child?

Discipline at Home: The Kindness to Children Index (by State)

As the Stophitting homepage reminds us, good old Dr. Spock WAS ahead of his time:

If we are ever to turn toward a kindlier society and a safer world, a revulsion against the physical punishment of children would be a good place to start.

- Dr. Benjamin Spock


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16 responses to “Stop Every Kid-Hitter You Can: Teach ‘Em a Lesson!”

30 04 2007
unschooled (07:20:11) :

I almost fell out of the bleachers one afternoon when a fundie Mom threatened her 5 year old daughter with “the wacker” when the little girl started pouting at a homeschool sporting event. The poor kid wasn’t doing anything unusual…just whining a bit and refusing to participate in some activities. Her mother pulled a flat child beating device out of her purse (obviously “the wacker” ;) in front of everyone. I had never seen anything like it. I’m thinking the woman must be religious to some extent since she seemed to think the threat was, in some sense, a good way to handle the situation. I shudder at the thought of what must go on behind closed doors if she didn’t think twice about airing her abusive ways in front of at least 10 other parents.

30 04 2007
NanceConfer (10:43:07) :

There are so many threads floating around here and elsewhere that touch on this. All about control and parenting and unschooling and applying principles in real life and . . . I better think some more and see if I have anything coherent to write. :)

Nance

30 04 2007
NanceConfer (10:44:11) :

And self-control and self-discipline — how to leave space for them to grow, how to help kids develop them and how to get some in our own “all grown up” lives.

Hmmm. . .

Nance

30 04 2007
JJ (10:51:56) :

Since 9-11 I can’t hear a story like that without hearing the Taliban in it. Regress everything to mullahs and mysticism, ignorance and social controls in the name of a vengeful and punishing deity whose mind is known mainly to MEN.

Vengeful and punishing “men of god” can be directly and openly resisted in a fair fight and usually will arouse just that response. But when Taliban Theocracy is enforced through the seemingly sweet, gentle “truth and light” of loving, protecting motherhood divining what’s in a child’s heart and then hitting it with a stick in the name of the fathers (like Michael Pearl and Tedd Tripp) — that’s when my faith in the Constitution is most sorely tested. I’m thinking maybe American freedom should be emulating Turkey rather than the Taliban.

30 04 2007
JJ (11:09:03) :

Something Teresa Heinz Kerry said on her next-to-last blog tour stop applies to this issue too — heck, it IS this issue, better environments for women’s and children’s health! That is all my issues rolled into one big one, pretty much what animates my life:

We must all continue to investigate, explore, create, write, research, experiment safely, and change our ways so that our children and their children can live in a world of hope, health, and joy.

BTW eireann, I am really enjoying your unschooling billboard bible tour of the South! ;-)

30 04 2007
JJ (17:02:30) :

Something Favorite Daughter had to say about hitting kids as shocking:
“I Can’t Hear You, LALALALA!”

In any movie that old, there are bound to be cultural referents that befuddle audiences of today – things change, they just do, and you can’t stop them.

One scene attempted to show the ‘domestic’ side of the handsome young detective assigned the murder case, he left the precinct and returned home to his white-picket fenced house and his almost painfully adorable wife.

They spend about a minute and a half being so cute, and post-war, and gung-ho, and can-do that you find yourself wanting to kill them. They are like an advertisement for the 1950s – “Got you a nice, cool supper,” the wife, Janey, whispers. “Jellied Tongue.”

Then these charming people proceed to have a rather disturbing conversation.

“Billy has to have a whipping.” Janey announces. “He walked right out of the yard, crossed Stillman Avenue all by himself, and went to the park.”

“Well… I’ll give him a real talking to.” The Handsome Young Detective says reluctantly.
“No you won’t, you’ll give him a real whipping, with a strap.” Janey counters.
“Just a minute, honey…” the Handsome Young Detective begs.
“I know — I know — you don’t believe in whipping a child. Neither have I until now.” Janey interrupts matter-of-factly.

And rightly so! I want to yell at the screen. What is wrong with you? As I sat there, watching this woman attempt to talk her husband into beating up on their son, the thought crossed my mind more than once: you are the DEVIL. . .

30 04 2007
Deanne (17:54:35) :

Thank you for posting this. I wish I was aware of this sooner. I’m definitely applying for one of the grants to have a “No Spank” event and some education in our area next year!!!! There were so few events listed on their site, and not one in FL. :(

30 04 2007
JJ (18:33:25) :

Hey, you know — we could maybe do a blog tour next April, like the one we just did with Teresa Keinz Kerry? Get Doc and Daryl and COD et al, Deanne and the Snooks, School of Thought, Culture Kitchen, Pam Sorooshian’s no-spanking group and enough other evolved Thinking Parents to make a “Healthy Means No Hitting!” online event throughout the month leading up to the Spank Out Day? — who could we get to be the star interview, hmmm . . .

30 04 2007
JJ (18:54:56) :

Sandra Dodd posted a truth-revealing story that happened to Favorite Daughter a couple of years ago. What it illustrated for us is how spanking either teaches kids to believe in spanking as parenting, or else not to believe in their own parents because of spanking.
Either way, a very bad learning outcome!

30 04 2007
Jo (22:10:07) :

Good to have you “on board” this year. Great post.

1 05 2007
Don't Miss This NPR Audio Tonight! « Cocking A Snook! (14:05:04) :

[...] 05 2007 As I listened to Zimbardo’s wonderful radio interview this morning, I thought about kid-hitting! This brilliant experimenter explains so much about unhealthy environments of power and control [...]

13 05 2007
JJ (20:35:25) :

“Deanne and the Snooks” sounds like a pop music group — ;-)

29 10 2007
Is Your Love for Your Kids Controlling? « Cocking A Snook! (11:45:25) :

[...] tend to focus mainly on the horror of all that actual hitting, but along comes Pam to remind me love-as-control is a whole mindset, a parenting meme. There are [...]

22 12 2007
If You’re Here Fresh From “Unity-N-Diversity”. . . « Cocking A Snook! (23:36:39) :

[...] — just chill me to the bone? You betcha, particularly the same week as the much more directly child-protective lessons of National Spank Out Day! (which needs prayer and action too, but these folks had no Capitol rally for THAT, didn’t [...]

1 03 2008
JJ (18:01:01) :

Strange spanking research story via Doc’s new digs, and seeing it just now reminds me if we want to do a blog tour this year for SpankOut Day, we should get cracking!

1 03 2008
Mind Your Head About Home Education and Religion « Cocking A Snook! (22:34:23) :

[...] easy way you can help is to look directly at the prayer and politics and punishment in a family, if you want or need to know how dangerous they are to our civil liberties and national [...]

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